The Tech Behind Signalgate + Dwarkesh Patel’s ‘Scaling Era’ + Is A.I. Making Our Listeners Dumb?

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This week, we dig into the group chat that’s rocking the Trump administration and talk about why turning to Signal to plan military operations probably isn’t a great idea. Then, we’re joined by the podcaster Dwarkesh Patel to discuss his new book “The Scaling Era,” and whether he’s still optimistic about the broad benefits of A.I. And finally, a couple weeks ago we asked whether A.I. was making you dumber. Now we hear your takes.

Guest:

  • Dwarkesh Patel, tech podcaster and author of “The Scaling Era: An Oral History of A.I., 2019-2025”

Additional Reading:

“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. The show is edited by Matt Collette. Engineering by Alyssa Moxley and original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano and Diane Wong. Fact-checking by Ena Alvarado. Our executive producer is Jen Poyant.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Dahlia Haddad and Jeffrey Miranda.

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